JOSH INNES VS BOB ALLEN & NUTTLESS RADIO CITY
Written By: LM
One of the best days in sports talk radio in a non football season capacity I can recall in a long time. First there was me me getting extra pissed with Matt Jackson (790) saying "Vincent Jackson (Chargers) was a better than Andre Johnson. Trust me a blog is coming, but then there was Bob Allen.
If you are in Houston living underneath a rock, Bob Allen (ABC 13 Sports Anchor) made a comment about someone he knows who know the Manning family saying "Peyton was interested in the Texans". Let me begin by saying, Peyton is the "man" to garner that much attention on a comment I thought personally thought was a "non story". Josh Innes (Sports Radio 610) sitting in the wings observing the reaction took a completely different approach to the Bob Allen story than most personalities approached it. Completely disregard the intent of the message but lest focus on the message. I have to be real, I appreciate the combative style of radio.
I grew up on Bob Allen, Dave Ward, Melanie Lawson the whole ABC 13 staff but if someone find a kink in their armor, it is what it is. My approach to Bob Allen was that of it not being a story, but Josh Innes dissected Bob's actual take. From Josh's point of view, Bob Allen's take cancelled it's self out. Below is the exchange between Bob Allen, Josh Innes and Brien Straw.
Bob Allen vs Josh Innes <<<<< Listen
WOW, Bob was pretty pissed off. I have to say, you have to balls the size of the Astrodome to challenge Bob the Allen. This once, I will neglect to have an opinion on the interview but the Bob Allen call-in was only the PG version on the scale of entertainment value. I say PG in terms of people who were not able to listen live and listen to the podcast because things got pretty interesting after Bob Allen.
After Josh and Brien Straw got off the phone with Bob Allen, Josh went on a rant about the Houston Sports Market, In one word, epic. As I listened to this rant, I was like "how in the hell can a 610 personality make such comments". Like it or not and I do not speak for every member of HMW but he said what most local media never want to be uttered.
Josh on Houston Media Market
Well it didn't stop at Bob Allen and Houston, Josh took a call from a caller Mouton. Again, I have no opinion on the exchange but it was good radio. Josh Innes blows up after Mouton drops a couple of expletives.
Josh vs Mouton
Josh vs Mouton
DAVID NUNO WANT SOME TOO "MORE BOB ALLEN"
Ok no matter how everyone try to act as if they don't listen to competitor's shows, everyone in Houston heard what transpired between Josh, Brien and Bob. Well, David Nuno brought Bob Allen to lay out his case. From what I observed, Bob was still flustered about earlier events as he should. Don't take my word, listen.
Bob Allen w/ David Nuno
WRAP IT UP
I would be dishonest with myself if I were to blast Josh for what I have been bitching about for almost two years in print and countless years as a caller. I think Josh went far and beyond his personality to show courtesy to Bob on the intro and exit of the J&R Show and I think he felt he had to show gratitude/homage to Bob for longevity.
Sports Talk is entertainment, this is my avenue to get away from real life and have fun with sports I love. I want some real sports talk. Outside of the 94/95 Rockets Organization (Champions) anything else as far as Houston is over exaggerated with platitudes. We know Bum Phillips birthplace, we know John McClain has a cat and a wife, we know Kyle Lowry stats from tomorrow, we know Dan Pastornini had a lot of sex in the 70s, we know all of this damn great history in Houston with only 2 championships show for it. I am not grinch but the "he's a swell guy" stuff with any and everybody in Houston not named Jerry Glanville is a bit much.
I do not believe Bob Allen tried to pull a fast one but I can't get mad at Josh Innes for asking a question. I learned one thing listening to Bob Allen on with David Nuno, journalist take there information pretty serious. Bob pretty much begin the interview defending his story. It was kind of sad because Bob is on his way out and no one wants to go out with a blemish on the tail end of a wonderful career.
In radio, I challenge the information of Barry Warner and John McClain, their longevity does not shelter them from questions I may have. I feel the same apply to Josh and Bob Allen, however I think Josh may have took it to a level of making Bob look bad. Josh's 2 O'clock hour on Bob was pretty brutal by Houston standards. As far Bob, to call in a show and don't have the facts correct? Bob called in and went at Brien and Josh for a comment a caller made that he thought the on air talent said. The funniest thing about yesterday's events, if Rich Lord would have been in studio, Josh would have literally been thrown out of the window in 59 South traffic. Rich don't condone media on media.
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LM
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In radio, I challenge the information of Barry Warner and John McClain, their longevity does not shelter them from questions I may have. I feel the same apply to Josh and Bob Allen, however I think Josh may have took it to a level of making Bob look bad. Josh's 2 O'clock hour on Bob was pretty brutal by Houston standards. As far Bob, to call in a show and don't have the facts correct? Bob called in and went at Brien and Josh for a comment a caller made that he thought the on air talent said. The funniest thing about yesterday's events, if Rich Lord would have been in studio, Josh would have literally been thrown out of the window in 59 South traffic. Rich don't condone media on media.
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8 comments:
Josh is an idiot. The day he gets fired, there should be a city wide celebration. I still don't see why you guys give this DB so much run.
Jose, I devoted a series of articles for 610. Josh is polarizing therefore we address it. Trust me, there was a time i was right there with you but then I realize he's trying to get under your skin, he feeds off the negativity. In other words I take very little to heart. Say Bro, thanks for the read
LM
Josh Innes is freakin' moron.
What he doesn't understand is that he's gonna be measured by the same "stick" as he measures others. In other words, he's now going to be under a microscope by all fellow media types and be scrutinized by even the way he wipes his a$$.
I think it's a good thing to expect good journalism from your peers, and to feel ripped off when you hear a hyped story that says the words "definitely" and "possibly" in the same sentence. But I think you gotta use "class" when you bring those things to light. I feel Rich Lord would've used class, however Josh has none.
If I recall correctly, Josh, in his anti-Bob rant, mentioned that in other major markets, the journalists keep each other accountable, but in Houston they do not. I get it that in NY or LA stations are so competitive for ratings, and culturally they're more dog-eat-dog, that they'll rip anybody with reckless abandon. But just because those other stations are that way doesn't make it right for us in Houston to be that way. Houston's media/listener culture is different and generally more mild-mannered. Even Jim Rome in LA, who "tears a new one" on any athlete or celebrity, uses discretion when he talks about his media peers. There is a way to dissect the poor choice of words that Bob Allen used to report his Manning story, but Josh chose to take the low road and add to the scummy noise he only knows how to give on the radio airwaves.
Because of yesterday's debacle, I won't be listening to 610AM in the afternoons anymore (and I go all the way back to John Granato, Charlie Palilo on 610 afternoons). I enjoy Rich Lord, but unfortunately Josh hosts the show with him - and I don't like feeling irritated on my drive home from work when I've already had a long day on the job.
I think the way Josh treated Bob Allen was totaally classless. Josh is a piece of trash as far as I am concerned. The guy sucks. 610 used to have a lot of on air talent, but no more. I just don't care for most of the guys over there anymore. That includes Barry. I texted to 610 after the Allen interview that Josh is a liar regarding 610 getting tough now, asking the tough questions. What a load of garbage. If the weenies over there treat the Texans like that then I will believe. Gavin, pleas fire Josh today!
First, I would like to say I like HWM for keeping sports fans updated on what happens here on the different Houston sports stations. I listen to all of the sports stations except for the espn FM station.
I haven't listened to 610 in the afternoon for awhile because I dislike Josh Innes. This is just another reason in the long list of reasons why people don't like him. Josh says he doesn't care if people like him, but that's the furthest thing from the truth. He wouldn't get so mad at people for telling him he is terrible.
I'm not sure what he means by people in this market are afraid to criticize other forms of media. It happens all the time. Not everyone agrees with what John McClain spouts off about. Jerome Solomon or Richard Justice articles get regularly blasted. Or other radio stations making fun of what other radio station personalities ask at Texan media conferences.
There are minions out there who are only loyal to their sports station. I think the majority of people flip between the stations if they don't like what they're listening to. It has nothing to do with having the "balls" to say what they want. It's all about how you bring about an opposing view without being disrespectful. Josh thinks because he says unfiltered controversial things, he has the "balls" that no one else does. In reality he comes off as an egotistical ass, who has no respect.
I fully believe the only reason why he is on the radio is because is to just start controversies. That's fine. I just won't listen to it. I also believe he needs to get his ass whooped.
Last thing, Brien Straw. I don't know much about this guy. The only things I've heard from him were on this blog. HWM has him acting like a baby and sitting in silence (twice) because his radio partner Greg Koch, said his called his comment stupid. No respect for this guy either.
If One has EVER Heard of the "Peter Principle".... It is coming up for Josh and he needs to read that book soon ("The Peter Principle").
Just a matter of time, just like it was for Jim Rome.
Take his shock-jock conversations on to the next town/city.......
You are Running out of time Josh (and on to a BIG Payday for You, elswhere).....
Take your meds .......
if Josh Innes had half the balls or creative ability of Bob Allen one of the Kardashian sister's would be seen running through Bush International to meet him...If Bob has a story you can take that story to the bank...I will never forget when Cheo was dumped by the Asto's in a classless..arrogant.. tasteless fashion, Bob put togather a TV Show where Jose Cruz was uplifted praised awarded and given a great send off...Bob Allen is Class with a capital "C" in that same traditon the of guy's like Ralph Cooper these guy's have class, pride, professionalism and a true love of humanity..people like them make me proud to be a Houstonian..
if Josh Innes had half the balls or creative ability of Bob Allen one of the Kardashian sister's would be seen running through Bush International to meet him...If Bob has a story you can take that story to the bank...I will never forget when Cheo was dumped by the Asto's in a classless..arrogant.. tasteless fashion, Bob put togather a TV Show where Jose Cruz was uplifted praised awarded and given a great send off...Bob Allen is Class with a capital "C" in that same traditon the of guy's like Ralph Cooper these guy's have class, pride, professionalism and a true love of humanity..people like them make me proud to be a Houstonian..
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